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Maybe upgrading is pointless…..

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PCI Express gen 4 has been around for over a year and a half now - But it hasn’t really made much of a difference… Does that change with Ryzen 5000, RTX 3000, and Radeon 6000?
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  1. Perri Connor

    Perri Connor

    پیش ساعت

    Worth it just for the intro

  2. TheDavid 50 • 13 years ago

    TheDavid 50 • 13 years ago

    پیش روز

    yay! new linus drop tips video

  3. Jayteasee


    پیش روز

    0:42 - Did anyone actually watch further? :D

  4. flashpeter625


    پیش 2 روز

    Upgrading a desktop is not pointless... ...but upgrading as often as new generations of hardware are released, that is most definitely pointless for the vast majority of users. Yearly upgrades? Get out. I would love to see an estimate of how much resources were wasted world-wide by gamers buying new hardware pointlessly.

  5. Pyrolight


    پیش 2 روز

    I didn't really expect x16 to make a difference, it is x8 that should be different.

  6. Rannon


    پیش 2 روز

    0:45 Max was here in Spirit! :p

  7. Tonny Pedersen

    Tonny Pedersen

    پیش 3 روز

    the PCI Express gen 4 benefit is storage not graphics.

  8. Frank Silvers

    Frank Silvers

    پیش 3 روز

    I still use a late 2012 27” i7 iMac. It originally came with a 1TB Fusion Drive but today it has 9TB of internal storage, 1TB SSD and 8TB HDD. I also upgraded the internal AirPort WiFi/Bluetooth card to a latter generation one with ac WiFi. It runs great.

  9. SR IRL

    SR IRL

    پیش 4 روز

    Please sell me that 3090...

  10. SR IRL

    SR IRL

    پیش 4 روز

    @:48 Next episode: Ground Tuning your new MSI Mobo

  11. tomas gemes

    tomas gemes

    پیش 4 روز

    the leaked beannie

  12. Adam Ossowicz

    Adam Ossowicz

    پیش 4 روز

    Plz hlp meh Linus, Ionly has 1 x RTX 3090, I need 2, plox halp

  13. Dominik Šuk

    Dominik Šuk

    پیش 4 روز

    This just gets me thinking, whether I should be afraid of a bottleneck of running a 5600XT on Gen3 x8 thanks to having an NVMe on an Intel mobo... Seems to be a close call.

  14. Alex Jacobsen

    Alex Jacobsen

    پیش 5 روز

    I wanna see that 3090 in a PCI-e gen 2. mb to see what happens then :)

  15. Rusu Dan

    Rusu Dan

    پیش 5 روز

    i would like to see more low end or budget builds since the majority of us have systems around those specs. all this high end stuff maybe like only 5% or less can actually benefit from these

  16. sniktaw


    پیش 5 روز

    I clicked on this video to see if there was some excuse I could use to magically turn my GTX 950 into an RTX 2070 and I was sorely disappointed.

  17. Rock&Roll


    پیش 5 روز

    Me video quickly grab my video card before Linus sat down.

  18. Bobby M

    Bobby M

    پیش 6 روز

    It's not an LTT video if he doesn't drop things.

  19. Allan Rowntree

    Allan Rowntree

    پیش 6 روز

    Then could we not use PCIE 4 to add more processors to our PCs?

  20. AC3


    پیش 7 روز

    MSI pushes PCI gen 4. Can't even buy PCI gen 4, or gen 3 cards anymore. Gen2 cards are going for gen 3 prices.

  21. Rel ixo

    Rel ixo

    پیش 7 روز

    Who cares ??? Ngreedia keep selling their cards to miners not for gamers! We have no chance of getting one .... for another 2 years at least if it goes on like this :( And amd ? Ofc produces 2 cards per month :D Its pathetic....

  22. Moral Monster

    Moral Monster

    پیش 7 روز

    Lets get Linus head to explode. Ask him to review a raspberry Pi. ;)

  23. Ashkan Arabi

    Ashkan Arabi

    پیش 7 روز

    Finally, a sponsor that I don't skip.

  24. S I O M A I

    S I O M A I

    پیش 7 روز

    that feel when that motherboard Linus dropped was more expensive than your entire current pc

  25. Spotter Shooter

    Spotter Shooter

    پیش 7 روز

    Lol either way you will never make me buy MSi products, ever.

  26. Markus Lüftner

    Markus Lüftner

    پیش 7 روز

    Linus tech tips dropping the dough..... Classic

  27. Ysa Pena

    Ysa Pena

    پیش 8 روز

    The burly sand regionally mug because hospital scientifically train since a cooperative monday. deeply, victorious dog

  28. Sixgorillionshekelswindler Shlomo

    Sixgorillionshekelswindler Shlomo

    پیش 8 روز

    Thumbs up, but not for the pink hat! XD

  29. Shadz Gamez

    Shadz Gamez

    پیش 8 روز

    0:43 That is a Linus Drop Tip for the ages right there. lol

  30. Headloser


    پیش 8 روز

    What about Crossfire and SLI effect?

  31. Wrath Aloss

    Wrath Aloss

    پیش 8 روز

    As someone with a 1080Ti... I see no reason to upgrade unless it's a 3080 MINIMUM. Everything else is not enough of a performance increase to justify. That's without even taking into consideration the inflated prices; That's just the nail in the coffin. No yeah; I think I'll be fine. Maybe I can get a good used 3080 in a year or two.

  32. Rod Duarte

    Rod Duarte

    پیش 8 روز

    Wait. "Started to Peter off". Was that a DEADPOOL REFERENCE?

  33. Zeek M

    Zeek M

    پیش 8 روز

    I can't say this is not the Lambo I enjoy. A guy unafraid to show his mistakes then shows Atari Frogger level educational material. It hits me in the face Lambo because I know this is your way of playing nice when what you really wants to do is put Scalpercorp on ice. Lambo I'm IEEE , take short walk with me , I know what you're really after , performance through the rafter , filling us with joy and laughter , well played.

  34. StrxngeThings


    پیش 8 روز

    a 3070 on ebay cost like 1.3K... looking back an rtx2080ti at retail is actually a really fucking good deal compared to the shit now

  35. kjell martin olsen

    kjell martin olsen

    پیش 8 روز

    pcie 4.0 are just a TEST thill better drivers are out. then we get that speed we needing 4k 8k it. if pcie 5.0 gets out soon and we forget about pcie 4.0 then we must begin getting doubble 14 gb m,2 slots ssd sata 4 and so on. even the sound cards could run better of x sb series. all os on marked must support all pcie to lanes too when that getting out. we must wait years to get top test pcie 5 6 7 and so on. we will get old before we get to 8 th versions.

  36. Ennovative


    پیش 9 روز

    Damn, this is more of a testament to how good Gen 3 was more than anything else.

  37. FLEX316


    پیش 9 روز

    HAHAHA that was quick.

  38. andylikescandy


    پیش 9 روز

    You had dual RTX 3090's in a system and did not post a Cyberpunk framerate? Come on, guys.

  39. Diabolus Nest

    Diabolus Nest

    پیش 9 روز

    Ltt store dot- He got me again

  40. V.P. More

    V.P. More

    پیش 9 روز

    1:00 Listen closely in the background. You could hear a notification on someones phone lol

  41. InfiniteDarkMass


    پیش 10 روز

    2:31 - Camera quality has gone too far! It's just a joke about RTX Titan being a piece of trash, but I'm not looking at it. I'm looking at the dirt and leaves on the street, and going "WHOA!" like Keanu.

  42. Clare Fabula

    Clare Fabula

    پیش 10 روز

    "if you're new to the channel, then **MOBO drops** me: LOL that about sums it up. 🤣

  43. Mushfiqur Rahman

    Mushfiqur Rahman

    پیش 10 روز

    linus drop tips

  44. Yvon Cui

    Yvon Cui

    پیش 10 روز


  45. Theodor D.

    Theodor D.

    پیش 10 روز

    And next year gen 5 will come. Hilarious.

  46. Ben Müller

    Ben Müller

    پیش 10 روز

    so do I need a Zen3 CPU for SAM ?

  47. Sapio


    پیش 10 روز

    Le marché est rendu d'la marde en tabarnak. J'pus capable.

  48. Foileedify


    پیش 10 روز

    CS:GO has smaller texture packages.. There's a lot less clutter, no hair movements, no large amounts of clutter on the screen that moves around, leafs, and whatnot.. So it is, essentially, a lot better at just moving those textures and inputs around, if it just gets more space to do it in.

  49. How to Guides and Reviews

    How to Guides and Reviews

    پیش 10 روز

    Linus is tryng to send a message to his wife that he is gay

  50. Talking Mango

    Talking Mango

    پیش 11 روز

    My theory is, it’s not that cs:go utilizes the lanes well, it’s just that you’re able to hit such high frames due to its low demand that in order to hit those 400+ frame rates, you’re transferring so much more data per second.

  51. Mista _Mask

    Mista _Mask

    پیش 11 روز

    Linus Meth Tips

  52. Mc GetRekt

    Mc GetRekt

    پیش 11 روز

    I have the 3080 version of this MSI card

  53. Alexevier 1

    Alexevier 1

    پیش 11 روز

    my pc still using pci-e gen 2 xD

  54. inkandsoles


    پیش 11 روز

    The bashful eyeliner cytomorphologically zoom because retailer bailly cross throughout a caring dance. noiseless, tearful feast

  55. Chester & Music

    Chester & Music

    پیش 11 روز

    Finally Max got her revenge by Linus dropping his motherboard as well. What a long wait.

  56. Rainy Loschiavo

    Rainy Loschiavo

    پیش 11 روز

    Bruh i can't even build my lil bro a pc properly without huge compromises. This inflation really upsets me...feel so bad for him he was so excited

  57. ghostdog662


    پیش 11 روز

    Short version. PCi-e 3.0 is more than fast enough. Only SSD's can take advantage of it

  58. unknown unknown

    unknown unknown

    پیش 12 روز

    linus drop tips.



    پیش 12 روز

    We just witnessed a MB commit suicide! 😂

  60. atavernerpi


    پیش 12 روز

    A *theory* is an idea that is well understood and supported by data. It's as close as science gets to "fact" or "truth". You're talking about a hypothesis. I understand that colloquially, theory is used in place of the word hypothesis, but to literally say "A theory is just a theory" is to completely ignore the primary meaning of the word theory.

  61. David1903


    پیش 13 روز

    Tipical amd fanboy - i told you, my amd fx8669 is the best

  62. Brett Gibson

    Brett Gibson

    پیش 13 روز

    Ring tone at 1:01

  63. Ivan B

    Ivan B

    پیش 14 روز

    long time, no drop

  64. SgtThUND3R


    پیش 14 روز

    45 seconds, is this a new record?

  65. Robby Robinson

    Robby Robinson

    پیش 14 روز

    I had a bad MSI support experience and likely won't go with them again.

  66. Natasha Glaze

    Natasha Glaze

    پیش 14 روز

    10:18 "Rocket League CPUs"

  67. TheSoarc


    پیش 14 روز

    You look so baked dude..

  68. ashley collard

    ashley collard

    پیش 14 روز

    why the slow, loose ram ?

  69. Anseur


    پیش 14 روز

    Just go ahead and change your channel name already. #LinusDropTips

  70. Winking Walrus

    Winking Walrus

    پیش 14 روز

    I mean I've still got my GTX 1080.

  71. Kyle Sebbag

    Kyle Sebbag

    پیش 14 روز

    is linus stupid? or does he think we are stupid? how are you jumping from a 23% difference saying its almost 30% ? 4:08

    • Natasha Glaze

      Natasha Glaze

      پیش 14 روز


  72. aciemiller


    پیش 14 روز

    Your are making videos for the 1% class who rule the world.... Nobody can affort such PC. Fools.

  73. Deugi


    پیش 15 روز

    even a potato can run CSGO 4k on 400fps

  74. Brandom Pope

    Brandom Pope

    پیش 15 روز

    Ok pc noob here. I have a rog b450 with a 3700x, two m.2 ssd, And a 1660 super oc. Am I bottle necked at all? Would I see a big benefit from a 3060 or 2070? Would I need to upgrade the mobo now or after one of those gpu upgrades? Thanks a lot everyone.

  75. rob7xiv


    پیش 15 روز

    Gen5 incoming.

  76. super minecraft 31 super minecraft 31

    super minecraft 31 super minecraft 31

    پیش 15 روز

    Hey Linus can I have your trash RTX 2080 Ti

  77. Jon Krupp

    Jon Krupp

    پیش 15 روز

    Linus the Destroyer, is at it again.

  78. John Marfal

    John Marfal

    پیش 15 روز

    What the hell lol

  79. Eric H

    Eric H

    پیش 15 روز

    Basically save your money worry about it in 3 years

  80. Thomas Scott

    Thomas Scott

    پیش 15 روز

    Literally the first thing I see and hear in this video was Linus dropping a motherboard...

  81. suckmylol


    پیش 15 روز

    Why would we want gen 4 pcie, when we can't get GPUs anyway? 😂

  82. PC_GameWorld


    پیش 15 روز

    MSI is the shittiest company ever, they care more about looks more than caring about it working and performance

  83. xpyr


    پیش 15 روز

    Maybe they should start using a bit of putty at the bottom to hold it in place. That would have avoided it dropping to the ground at 0:46. That's what gamersnexus does if you hadn't noticed in shots of motherboards and cpu's in b-roll footage.

  84. hognof


    پیش 15 روز

    That poor motherboard just wants to be euthanised.

  85. Lucas Mancini

    Lucas Mancini

    پیش 15 روز

    He pulled of a classic Linus 🤣😂🤣 this motherboard probably costs as much as my rig.

  86. CatNapOnABook


    پیش 16 روز

    Gen4 is better for esports titles, where you run the lowest settings on the highest end hardware for ridiculously high framerates.

  87. Amir . A

    Amir . A

    پیش 16 روز

    Linus your hat is soooo gay!

  88. Kenshin Himura

    Kenshin Himura

    پیش 16 روز

    MSI makes shit products

  89. Disasterdon


    پیش 16 روز

    Why you didn't use any intel CPU to test the difference, oh w8 I forgot that intel.....:(

  90. Mihails Smirnovs

    Mihails Smirnovs

    پیش 16 روز

    That's how Linus Tech Tips turns into Linus Tech Drop tests xD

  91. Jesper Tc

    Jesper Tc

    پیش 16 روز

    Sometimes I think gthe global chip shortage is due to Linus tech tips... hey lets test 10000 gps... :D

  92. Negeya


    پیش 16 روز

    Linus Drop Tips never fails

  93. Myk TA

    Myk TA

    پیش 16 روز

    I can hear Max's NOOOOOO sound

  94. Daniel Zduniak

    Daniel Zduniak

    پیش 17 روز

    It would actually make more sense to test it with lower grade cards with less on card memory (instead of those top of the line ones, where they have so much of it that they can fit almost all of assets required by entire levels) in more open world games that do a lot of streaming...

  95. Friis Teching

    Friis Teching

    پیش 17 روز

    How is the PCI Gen 4 x16 compared to PCI Gen 4 x8 in GPU performance?

  96. CalgarGTX


    پیش 17 روز

    All I got from this video is that this MSI motherboard is poorly balanced and falls over easily. Would not buy.

  97. Simon Verdinek

    Simon Verdinek

    پیش 17 روز

    The most powerfull GPU on the market? by what standards? by Linus says so?

  98. Dizastermaster


    پیش 17 روز

    I guess that's the REAL reason MSI sponsored this. To show that they have created the impossible... an anti-Linus motherboard

  99. andres leonardo

    andres leonardo

    پیش 17 روز

    The butter hands power is strong on you

  100. graymalkinmendel


    پیش 17 روز

    What? No Cyberpunk2077 benchmarking?